[Unistats] followup on plea for help

Ted Gallop T.Gallop@curtin.edu.au
Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:39:16 +0800


Frankly, I'm amazed that units such as these are appearing in HIGHER
EDUCATION courses.
 
They sound as though they are far more appropriate for bridging or
supplementary courses (which are not reported to DEST) or enabling courses
(which are reported to DEST and funded by DEST, but HECS free.) Either way,
the HECS band is irrelevant.

Are Universities turning into upmarket TAFE colleges?

Cheers all,
Ted Gallop


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Rispoli [mailto:r.rispoli@ecu.edu.au]
Sent: Friday, 15 March 2002 11:22 am
To: unistats@central.murdoch.edu.au
Subject: [Unistats] followup on plea for help


Dear Colleagues,

I had 4 responses in regard to an FOE code for a unit which would
normally get a 12xxxx code (a code which is not permitted by DEST!). A
little disappointing really.

My thanks to :

Bruce Zimmer/Margaret Orth at CQU
Ted Gallop at Curtin
Jane Powell at Murdoch, and
Linda McGarry at UNE.

Here are extracts from their responses:
---------------------------------


If you want to ... classify the unit as accurately as possible, I'd go
for 080999

If you ... are simply shopping for a HECS band , I'd settle for 100799
or even 099999

Cheers,
Ted



We have a unit called Introduction to University Learning - which is a
skills development unit for students who are identified as "at risk" it
has
a FOE code of 099900.

The other code we use for generic skills development units (Foundation
Units) are 090300, 090399, however once we start moving into
discipline
specific skills development units they get the relevant discipline eg
Foundations of IT is 020300.

Hope this helps

Jane



We have a handful of these at UNE and all are classified as 099999. 
Like you, we couldn't think where else to put them.

Regards,
Linda
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I'm leaning toward Ted's suggestion: 080999 (Office Studies not
elsewhere classified).

I know Jan and Wayne would like the 12xxxx series included in the HECS
table, so,  if anybody else from DEST is listening (and I know they're
out there) , how about it?



Rob
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