[Unistats] Regional loading mixed mode load.

Robert RISPOLI r.rispoli at ecu.edu.au
Tue Oct 21 13:08:25 WST 2003


I don't know how you guys get the time to write such long emails!

I'm too busy on the 2nd submission.

For the record, the O'Brien thing was a joke.

I wish him all the best in retirement.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roni McDowell [mailto:roni.mcdowell at rmit.edu.au] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2003 12:21 PM
> To: j.chan at avcc.edu.au; Robert RISPOLI
> Cc: unistats at central.murdoch.edu.au
> Subject: RE: [Unistats] Regional loading mixed mode load.
> 
> 
> Dear John,
> 
> I fully agree  - the Stats people in DEST are usually only 
> responsible for providing the information to other groups 
> within DEST, not for how the data are used.
> 
> David did a great job under difficult conditions and Wayne is 
> carrying on in that tradition.  He and Jan and Co need our 
> support at this time more than ever, since we need to work 
> cooperatively on the implementation of Nelson and HEIMS.
> 
> On the other hand it is still increasingly difficult to find 
> that data are used incorrectly or with only limited 
> understanding by DEST staff.  This issue of Mixed mode load 
> is not the only recent issue - some of you may or may not be 
> aware that the Work Experience in Industry figures in the 
> DEST income analysis were based on HECS 33 not Element 383 
> and I am sure there are many other examples.  As experts in 
> this field we must be continually vigilant to ensure these 
> issues are identified and corrected.
> 
> UniStats is a great way of giving us a shared understanding 
> of the emerging issues.
> 
> Roni
> 
> Roni McDowell
> Head, Statistics and Reporting Unit
> Planning Group
> RMIT Collection Coordinator
> RMIT University
> Phone:  03 9925 4077
> Mobile: 0417554033
> Fax: 03 9639 1941
> 
> 
> >>> "John Chan" <j.chan at avcc.edu.au> 21/10/2003 10:46:48 am >>>
> Robert and Colleagues
> 
> A fact to share:  David O'Brien used to head the Uni Stats 
> Unit at DEST and had nothing to do with the decision making 
> process of higher education funding.  Uni Stats, as you may 
> have known, is in a process of moving from the Research and 
> Analysis Group (Division) back to the Higher Education Group, 
> where it originally belongs to.   
> 
> I don't think we should praise or rather "blame" someone that 
> has left the scene.  I'd rather think positively and be 
> grateful that the concession had been made.  (obviously still 
> not good enough, but it has never been enough!)
> 
> Cheers
> John
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	Robert RISPOLI [mailto:r.rispoli at ecu.edu.au] 
> Sent:	Monday, 20 October 2003 5:11 PM
> To:	Matulick, Andrea; Roni McDowell
> Cc:	Subject:	RE: [Unistats] Regional loading mixed mode load.
> 
> > Does anybody have any information on how and when DEST made 
> > the generous
> > concession of including external load with some regional 
> loading, but
> > not including mixed mode?
> > 
> 
> 
> I bet it was David O'Brien!
> 
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